In this episode I have a conversation with Jen Cope, LAMFT about her personal experience as a highly sensitive person (HSP), managing OCD and trichotillomania (hair pulling) and healing from trauma. Jen is an expert at looking at all the layers that effect mental health and she allows her personal experience to inform how she practices. I came away from this interview understanding myself better and feeling like I have a new friend, which is how I'm sure many of her clients feel!