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This week's professional risk - inspired by Marilyn
Challenging a rule, a KPI or a person in authority when following along would be easier, safer and more professional.
Description
When Marilyn was told to cut a third of her marketing budget, she suggested cancelling Dubai’s New Year’s Eve celebration instead. Her team produced it.
The room froze.
For Marilyn, that was precisely the point. An absurd demand sometimes needs an equally absurd response before everyone stops hiding behind the process and starts having what she calls a “mature adult conversation”.
From there, we talk about what happens when we give our human agency to systems somebody designed years ago. We follow KPIs even when they create the wrong behaviour. We complain about leaders in the town-hall side chat instead of speaking to them. We build rules to protect ourselves from bad behaviour, then discover that those same rules make it harder to care for one another. Having worked across North America, Europe and the Middle East, Marilyn has seen a manager who asks about a colleague’s sick mother treated as a role model in one place and as an intrusion on privacy in another. And she holds everyone to the same standard, down to the youngest intern and the words they use in a meeting.
This episode invites you to reflect on:
Over to you!
Which decision are you working around right now, instead of taking it to the person who made it?
About the guest
Marilyn Zakhour is the founder and CEO of Cosmic Centaurs, a Dubai-based organisational development consultancy that works with leaders on how they think about work and the workplace. Before that, she was chief marketing officer of Emaar, where her team produced Dubai’s New Year’s Eve celebration, and she headed Dubai Opera. She is Lebanese, and her career has taken her across North America, Europe and the Middle East. She calls herself a systems person, which is exactly why she keeps asking how a process will behave on a bad day, and why she will take that question to whoever is in charge.
Links to learn more about :
Marilyn’s TEDx Talk
Website
This week's professional risk - inspired by Piero Gandini
Risking status and authority by refusing to let your title determine how you relate to people.
Description
What happens when you gain status but refuse to behave as though it makes you more important than the people around you?
When Piero became a Colombian consul, his new team had only ever called his predecessor "Consul". On the first evening, a colleague asked, "Mr Consul, what do you want to eat?" He answered, "My name is Piero." She was shocked.
That small moment says a lot about how Piero thinks about leadership. "The job that I'm doing is not who I am," as he puts it.
Throughout our conversation, Piero takes us from humanitarian missions and overcrowded prisons to embassies and consulates. He tells me why he made visiting Colombians in prison a priority when others avoided it, why he worked reception during mobile consulates, and why sharing lunch with his team became part of how he led. When a colleague had to record testimonies from victims of the Colombian conflict in front of everyone, he pushed the ministry for a private office. Some of these choices earned him recognition for innovation. Others made fellow consuls uncomfortable, because his way of working showed what they weren't doing.
This episode invites you to reflect on:
Over to you!
Pick one thing you dropped to fit a role, maybe sharing lunch with your team, a kind of joke, or being called by your first name. Bring it back for a week and notice what returns with it.
About the guest
Piero opened a bar at 21, ran an NGO soon after, and then spent years in humanitarian work. It took him from Angola and South Sudan to a prison in Peru and the MSF mission in India, which he led. An ambassador who knew him from the parties at his house in New Delhi brought him into Colombian diplomacy. He served as second-in-command and consul at the embassy in India, and later as consul in Gran Canaria. In both worlds he kept the habit of asking people what they need, whether in a prison in Mumbai or at the reception desk of a mobile consulate. His book of stories from the humanitarian field, Agunamakuash, is out now.
Links to learn more about Piero:
This week's professional risk - inspired by Kate Raynes-Goldie
Trusting yourself enough to break the rules that are supposed to keep you safe.
Description
Professionalism feels safe. Kate calls it a false safety: the suit, the right behaviour, the private life kept at home, all so nobody sees the part of us that might be judged. It is also what we ask of each other, when we expect a colleague to show up in a way that isn't confronting for anyone else in the room. Once Facebook opened up beyond college students, those lines collapsed. People were fired over what they posted. One woman in Kate's PhD research never drank, yet her landlord questioned her over a photo of her pretending to chug a beer as a joke. In 2007, Kate asked Mark Zuckerberg whether Facebook would let people keep their different contexts apart. His answer, she recalls, was no. In his view, being different in different parts of your life was lying.
Kate's own way through is to choose where she is real, and then build the structure that lets her. It started with a salary number she was ready to hear no to. Today she is open about her ADHD, so a missed detail can be understood as how she is wired. She uses a first conversation with clients to test the fit, because how a client behaves at the start is how they will behave later. And when she brings Lego into sceptical rooms, her research, her PhD and the word "serious" in LEGO Serious Play are her safety net. This is an episode about what those rules were protecting us from in the first place.
This episode invites you to reflect on:
Over to you!
Which professional rule are you following simply because breaking it feels scary?
About the guest
Dr Kate Raynes-Goldie was told by people in academia that a TEDx talk was not serious. She went on to speak at TEDxPerth and SXSW, and to create SUPERCONNECT®, an evidence-based method built on LEGO® Serious Play® that optimises for curiosity, connection, belonging and psychological safety. Born in Canada and now based in Western Australia, she wrote her PhD on privacy and identity on Facebook, and has worked with organisations including Google, Microsoft and the Mozilla Foundation. She is Chief Curiosity Officer at The Up Next Company.
Links to learn more about Kate:
Website
This week's professional risk - inspired by Amar Dhall
Taking responsibility for what went wrong, even when someone else clearly made the mistake.
Description
What if your first question when something goes wrong wasn't "Whose fault is this?" but "What could I have done differently?"
It sounds generous until you try it in a room where everyone else is still holding their position. Going first means being the one who visibly failed, in front of people who have conceded nothing. It doesn't mean taking the blame. It means starting with the part of the system you actually have the power to change. Amar Dhall began his career teaching law, where he did something several colleagues considered rather unprofessional: he cared less about proving how difficult the material was and more about creating the conditions in which his students could actually learn. That instinct took him out of law, into therapy, and towards a much bigger question. What does it take for human beings to flourish?
He describes preparing two senior leaders for a conversation neither of them wanted, one in the C-suite and one a step below, working with each separately from a position of full responsibility. Their views stayed irreconcilable. The relationship got stronger anyway. Which is the case for why any of this belongs at work, because the inner child having an argument in the boardroom doesn't disappear when the meeting ends.
This episode invites you to reflect on:
Over to you!
Think of the last time something went wrong at work that genuinely wasn't your fault. Knowing what you know now, what could you have done differently?
About the guest
Dr Amar Dhall started out teaching law and left it for psychotherapy, having decided he could not understand law without understanding people. He now runs Neuro-Somatic Leadership, working with executives and founders on what happens in the body when the pressure is on. He chose to work with leaders for the multiplier. Change how one CEO shows up, and five hundred families have a different experience of work.
Links to learn more about Amar:
Website
This week's professional risk - inspired by Alissia Quaintance
Speaking about the female cycle and women’s health in the corporate environment.
Description
Talking about our health at work is easy while we are healthy. Admitting that our body is not delivering is already a taboo for many. Women's health and periods more so, although half the workforce is affected. Thirty per cent of women come to work through intense cycle-related pain and say nothing. Two in five consider leaving or cutting their hours over health topics they don't feel permitted to talk about.
Alissia Quaintance opened a meeting at one of the world's biggest tech companies by asking every woman present where she was in her cycle. The answers became planning data. Ovulating means fast, associative thinking, the days before a bleed bring deeper focus. Teams that name this stop guessing at each other's bad days and start planning around something real. Her sharpest point is the inversion: the female cycle is the predictable one. Testosterone drops without warning, for an unknown length of time, when a man's team loses a match.
This episode invites you to reflect on:
Over to you!
What opportunities are my colleagues and I missing by not openly speaking about our health conditions?
About the guest
Alissia Quaintance built her first career in tech until motherhood confronted her with a version of her own body that none of the available narratives fitted. She founded Cycle Positivity to bring menstrual cycle awareness, fertility, motherhood and menopause into corporate strategy, and works with organisations including Amazon and Microsoft. Her insistence on pairing intuition with hard data comes from knowing exactly how quickly this conversation gets filed under wellness and forgotten.
Links to learn more about Alissia:
Website
✏️ Illustration credit: WolfiSchmid.
This week's professional risk - inspired by Thomas Lahnthaler
Letting a room see you're human at the exact moment the role expects you to hold it together.
Description
Most of us carry a private rulebook to work: be on time, stay composed, sit properly, keep the personal out of it. Nobody handed us this rulebook, and nobody quite agrees on what's in it — yet we only discover its contents the moment someone tells us we've broken a rule. And that label, arriving uninvited, does something to us. Suddenly we're managing the fear of doing it wrong rather than doing the work.
Thomas Landthaler has been on the receiving end of that label since his very first job interview, where a panel told him to get comfortable and then critiqued the way he sat. Since then, he has led teams in crisis zones where his idea of good leadership counted as unprofessional, sworn at workshop groups, asked 150 keynote guests to give up their seats — and once logged on to teach 300 people on the day of his mother's funeral, having decided to push through as the professional. What he said in that first minute is where this conversation begins. This is an episode about the professional risk of choosing to break the rules before the rules break you.
This episode invites you to reflect on:
Over to you!
Which professional rule do you follow mainly because it keeps your own nerves quiet?
About the guest
Thomas Lahnthaler is the author of “Facilitating Reflections” and “Navigating Beyond Crisis”. He is a facilitator, consultant and educator whose work has taken him across very different professional and cultural contexts, including international development and crisis environments. Those experiences have repeatedly challenged his own assumptions about what professionalism is supposed to look like. Today, he brings that curiosity into his work with groups, deliberately experimenting with expectations, roles and conventions to create the moment he describes as people finally being able to “lower their shoulders” and connect as humans.
Links to learn more about Thomas Lahnthaler:
Website
This week's professional risk - inspired by Esther: Choosing your team over the expectations of the organisation.
Description
Many managers start their careers believing leadership means delivering results at any cost. Saying yes, working harder, and asking the same of their teams often feels like the safest path to success. Pushing back on unrealistic expectations can feel professionally risky, especially when your own reputation is on the line.
Looking back on more than seventeen years in the corporate world, Esther realised that her best leadership began when she no longer felt the need to prove herself. An unexpected career pause gave her the distance to see how ambition had shaped her leadership, and why advocating for her team ultimately earned more trust than simply protecting the organisation. This is an episode about becoming the kind of manager your team knows will go to bat for them.
This episode invites you to reflect on:
Over to you!
What did you last agree to on behalf of your team that you could have negotiated?
About the guest
After spending more than seventeen years building consumer brands and leading an $850 million portfolio at Canada’s largest general merchandise retailer, Esther Ifrah found herself questioning many of the unwritten rules that had shaped her career. Today, she is the creator of Work Persona, a weekly newsletter helping experienced professionals stay relevant, visible and ready for what’s next, while exploring what it means to build a career that reflects who you are, not just what you’ve achieved.
Links to learn more about Esther:
Work Persona Newsletter
This week's professional risk - inspired by Rob: Walking into the room without pretending you already know the answer.
Description
Most of us learnt early that being taken seriously means being serious. So we bring gravitas into the room and leave the warmth outside, because humour feels like a gamble: it might land, or it might cost us the contract, the promotion, the credibility we've spent years building. Safer to perform the professional and save the human for after hours.
In 1996, Rob Evans walked into an interview with twenty German engineers at Lufthansa, convinced he had no chance of winning the contract. So he stopped performing and started having fun. What happened in that room — and what the engineers admitted afterwards — changed how he worked for the next three decades. This is an episode about the professional risk of being warm.
This episode invites you to reflect on:
Over to you!
How much fun did you have at work yesterday — and whose game are you playing if the answer is none?
About the guest
Rob Evans has spent decades designing and facilitating large-scale strategy and transformation processes for organisations around the world. His work combines systems thinking, dialogue, large group facilitation and deep human curiosity. Rather than positioning himself as the expert with answers, Rob has dedicated his career to helping groups discover answers that none of them could have found alone.
Links to learn more about Rob Evans:
This week's professional risk - inspired by Kristine
Saying out loud, in front of the person who could remove you, what a colleague only dared say to you in private.
Description
Most of us have sat in a meeting and watched a decision take shape that we didn't agree with, and said nothing. We tell ourselves it's not our place, or that speaking up won't change anything, or that the cost of disagreeing with the room is higher than the cost of staying quiet. We rarely ask what that silence is costing the business, or us.
Kristine Frost, a Chief Human Resources Officer with more than 25 years in the C-suite, names what everyone else in the room already knows and won't say. She calls colleagues out by name in executive meetings, walks factory floors instead of reading reports about them, and takes a seat at the table when nobody offers her one. This is an episode about the risk of being the one who breaks the silence.
This episode invites you to reflect on:
Over to you!
Where am I waiting for permission when I could simply pull up a seat?
About the guest
Kristine Frost spent more than 25 years in corporate leadership, often as the only woman, and often the only HR voice, at the table, before founding Shattered Glass Advisory. Trained as an attorney and now a board director, she built her authority in the C-suite by learning the business well enough to challenge it: walking assembly lines, sitting with engineers on the shop floor, asking questions nobody assumed were hers to ask. Her career is a case study in what it costs, and what it earns, to close the gap between the plant floor and the boardroom.
Links to learn more about Kristine:
Website
This week's professional risk - inspired by Moh Guisse
Abandoning the persona that got you promoted.
Description
For years, Moh believed he was doing exactly what a successful professional should do.
After his manager suggested that the way he dressed affected how seriously colleagues took him, he didn’t just swap oversized hoodies for penny loafers. Slowly, almost without noticing, he changed the way he spoke, the way he led and even the way he related to other people. The clothes became an armour. The armour became a personality. And the personality eventually followed him home.
The strange part? It worked.
He was promoted. His career progressed. From the outside, every signal told him to keep going. Until one day his own team joked that mentioning his name was enough to make other departments back down. Instead of feeling proud, he realised he’d become someone he didn’t want to be.
Our conversation explores what happens when fitting in turns into becoming someone else. We talk about code-switching, authenticity, identity and why wearing a professional mask doesn’t just change how others see us, but also how we see them. Moh describes the moment he stopped leading through authority and started leading through trust, why that transformed his relationships at work, and how reclaiming something as simple as the clothes he wore became part of reclaiming himself.
This episode invites you to reflect on:
Over to you
Where in your work are you still performing a version of yourself that no longer feels true, and what would be the smallest step towards letting that mask slip?
About the guest
Moh Guissé is the founder of The Team Wizard, where he helps organisations build stronger collaboration, trust and leadership. After nearly twenty years in the fashion industry, he left corporate life to create a business where he no longer had to code-switch or hide behind the image of what a professional should look like. Today, he works with teams exactly as he is, believing that trust begins the moment people stop performing and start meeting each other as humans.
Every team is stuck in its own way. Ten questions to map how yours is. Three minutes, it's all it takes: https://ttw-diagnostic.netlify.app/
Links to learn more about Moh Guissé:
Website
From the publisher's feed
What does it really mean to be professional?
For generations, professionalism has been associated with competence, composure and control. But many of the unwritten rules we follow…
Each week, Dr Myriam Hadnes, behavioural economist, facilitator and founder of workshops.work, sits down with people who've questioned those rules. Their stories start with a professional risk. Few set out to be disruptive. Most simply reached a point where the conventional way of working no longer served them or the people around them.
Together they unpack the risks they took: admitting they didn't know, showing grief at work, challenging authority, asking for help, dressing differently, changing careers, trusting others, leading in ways they'd never seen modelled.
This podcast doesn't ask you to reject professionalism, or treat authenticity as some ideal to reach for. It’s about judgment: Which professional norms help us collaborate, lead and build trust? Which ones create distance between people? And how do we recognise the difference?
If you've ever felt the gap between who you are and who you think work wants you to be, this podcast invites you to look again. Not every professional rule needs breaking. But every one is worth questioning.