This week's professional risk - inspired by Kate Raynes-Goldie

Trusting yourself enough to break the rules that are supposed to keep you safe.

Description

Professionalism feels safe. Kate calls it a false safety: the suit, the right behaviour, the private life kept at home, all so nobody sees the part of us that might be judged. It is also what we ask of each other, when we expect a colleague to show up in a way that isn't confronting for anyone else in the room. Once Facebook opened up beyond college students, those lines collapsed. People were fired over what they posted. One woman in Kate's PhD research never drank, yet her landlord questioned her over a photo of her pretending to chug a beer as a joke. In 2007, Kate asked Mark Zuckerberg whether Facebook would let people keep their different contexts apart. His answer, she recalls, was no. In his view, being different in different parts of your life was lying.

Kate's own way through is to choose where she is real, and then build the structure that lets her. It started with a salary number she was ready to hear no to. Today she is open about her ADHD, so a missed detail can be understood as how she is wired. She uses a first conversation with clients to test the fit, because how a client behaves at the start is how they will behave later. And when she brings Lego into sceptical rooms, her research, her PhD and the word "serious" in LEGO Serious Play are her safety net. This is an episode about what those rules were protecting us from in the first place.

This episode invites you to reflect on:

• The parts of ourselves we keep out of work because they might be judged, and how much safety that really buys
• What a first meeting could reveal about fit if we showed up as we are
• How we read a colleague's lateness or small mistake, and what we tell ourselves when we make one

Over to you!

Which professional rule are you following simply because breaking it feels scary?

About the guest

Dr Kate Raynes-Goldie was told by people in academia that a TEDx talk was not serious. She went on to speak at TEDxPerth and SXSW, and to create SUPERCONNECT®, an evidence-based method built on LEGO® Serious Play® that optimises for curiosity, connection, belonging and psychological safety. Born in Canada and now based in Western Australia, she wrote her PhD on privacy and identity on Facebook, and has worked with organisations including Google, Microsoft and the Mozilla Foundation. She is Chief Curiosity Officer at The Up Next Company.

Links to learn more about Kate:

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This week's professional risk - inspired by Amar Dhall

Taking responsibility for what went wrong, even when someone else clearly made the mistake.

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What if your first question when something goes wrong wasn't "Whose fault is this?" but "What could I have done differently?"

It sounds generous until you try it in a room where everyone else is still holding their position. Going first means being the one who visibly failed, in front of people who have conceded nothing. It doesn't mean taking the blame. It means starting with the part of the system you actually have the power to change. Amar Dhall began his career teaching law, where he did something several colleagues considered rather unprofessional: he cared less about proving how difficult the material was and more about creating the conditions in which his students could actually learn. That instinct took him out of law, into therapy, and towards a much bigger question. What does it take for human beings to flourish?

He describes preparing two senior leaders for a conversation neither of them wanted, one in the C-suite and one a step below, working with each separately from a position of full responsibility. Their views stayed irreconcilable. The relationship got stronger anyway. Which is the case for why any of this belongs at work, because the inner child having an argument in the boardroom doesn't disappear when the meeting ends.

This episode invites you to reflect on:

• How quickly you reach for someone else's mistake, and what that reflex protects you from.
• The line between attunement and rescuing, and which side of it your care usually lands on.
• What your body and your relationships already know about a situation before your thinking catches up.

Over to you!

Think of the last time something went wrong at work that genuinely wasn't your fault. Knowing what you know now, what could you have done differently?

About the guest

Dr Amar Dhall started out teaching law and left it for psychotherapy, having decided he could not understand law without understanding people. He now runs Neuro-Somatic Leadership, working with executives and founders on what happens in the body when the pressure is on. He chose to work with leaders for the multiplier. Change how one CEO shows up, and five hundred families have a different experience of work.

Links to learn more about Amar:

Website

This week's professional risk - inspired by Alissia Quaintance

Speaking about the female cycle and women’s health in the corporate environment.

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Talking about our health at work is easy while we are healthy. Admitting that our body is not delivering is already a taboo for many. Women's health and periods more so, although half the workforce is affected. Thirty per cent of women come to work through intense cycle-related pain and say nothing. Two in five consider leaving or cutting their hours over health topics they don't feel permitted to talk about.

Alissia Quaintance opened a meeting at one of the world's biggest tech companies by asking every woman present where she was in her cycle. The answers became planning data. Ovulating means fast, associative thinking, the days before a bleed bring deeper focus. Teams that name this stop guessing at each other's bad days and start planning around something real. Her sharpest point is the inversion: the female cycle is the predictable one. Testosterone drops without warning, for an unknown length of time, when a man's team loses a match.

This episode invites you to reflect on:

• Why you keep pushing through pain instead of calling in sick.
• The assumptions you make about a colleague who calls in sick.
• What your ambition to deliver the same output every day is actually costing you.

Over to you!

What opportunities are my colleagues and I missing by not openly speaking about our health conditions?

About the guest

Alissia Quaintance built her first career in tech until motherhood confronted her with a version of her own body that none of the available narratives fitted. She founded Cycle Positivity to bring menstrual cycle awareness, fertility, motherhood and menopause into corporate strategy, and works with organisations including Amazon and Microsoft. Her insistence on pairing intuition with hard data comes from knowing exactly how quickly this conversation gets filed under wellness and forgotten.

Links to learn more about Alissia:

Website

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✏️ Illustration credit: WolfiSchmid.

This week's professional risk - inspired by Thomas Lahnthaler

Letting a room see you're human at the exact moment the role expects you to hold it together.

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Most of us carry a private rulebook to work: be on time, stay composed, sit properly, keep the personal out of it. Nobody handed us this rulebook, and nobody quite agrees on what's in it — yet we only discover its contents the moment someone tells us we've broken a rule. And that label, arriving uninvited, does something to us. Suddenly we're managing the fear of doing it wrong rather than doing the work.

Thomas Landthaler has been on the receiving end of that label since his very first job interview, where a panel told him to get comfortable and then critiqued the way he sat. Since then, he has led teams in crisis zones where his idea of good leadership counted as unprofessional, sworn at workshop groups, asked 150 keynote guests to give up their seats — and once logged on to teach 300 people on the day of his mother's funeral, having decided to push through as the professional. What he said in that first minute is where this conversation begins. This is an episode about the professional risk of choosing to break the rules before the rules break you.

This episode invites you to reflect on:

• Which of your ideas about "professional behaviour" are universal — and which you simply learned somewhere along the way.
• What the worry about doing something "wrong" does to your intuition and your ability to connect.
• The difference between breaking a rule on purpose and being caught breaking one you never knew existed.

Over to you!

Which professional rule do you follow mainly because it keeps your own nerves quiet?

About the guest

Thomas Lahnthaler is the author of “Facilitating Reflections” and “Navigating Beyond Crisis”. He is a facilitator, consultant and educator whose work has taken him across very different professional and cultural contexts, including international development and crisis environments. Those experiences have repeatedly challenged his own assumptions about what professionalism is supposed to look like. Today, he brings that curiosity into his work with groups, deliberately experimenting with expectations, roles and conventions to create the moment he describes as people finally being able to “lower their shoulders” and connect as humans.

Links to learn more about Thomas Lahnthaler:

Website

LinkedIn

This week's professional risk - inspired by Esther: Choosing your team over the expectations of the organisation.

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Many managers start their careers believing leadership means delivering results at any cost. Saying yes, working harder, and asking the same of their teams often feels like the safest path to success. Pushing back on unrealistic expectations can feel professionally risky, especially when your own reputation is on the line.

Looking back on more than seventeen years in the corporate world, Esther realised that her best leadership began when she no longer felt the need to prove herself. An unexpected career pause gave her the distance to see how ambition had shaped her leadership, and why advocating for her team ultimately earned more trust than simply protecting the organisation. This is an episode about becoming the kind of manager your team knows will go to bat for them.

This episode invites you to reflect on:

• What you pass on to your team when the pressure lands on you.
• Which parts of yourself you've muted in order to appear more professional.
• Whose definition of success your career is currently built around.

Over to you!

What did you last agree to on behalf of your team that you could have negotiated?

About the guest

After spending more than seventeen years building consumer brands and leading an $850 million portfolio at Canada’s largest general merchandise retailer, Esther Ifrah found herself questioning many of the unwritten rules that had shaped her career. Today, she is the creator of Work Persona, a weekly newsletter helping experienced professionals stay relevant, visible and ready for what’s next, while exploring what it means to build a career that reflects who you are, not just what you’ve achieved.

Links to learn more about Esther:

Work Persona Newsletter

This week's professional risk - inspired by Rob: Walking into the room without pretending you already know the answer.

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Most of us learnt early that being taken seriously means being serious. So we bring gravitas into the room and leave the warmth outside, because humour feels like a gamble: it might land, or it might cost us the contract, the promotion, the credibility we've spent years building. Safer to perform the professional and save the human for after hours.

In 1996, Rob Evans walked into an interview with twenty German engineers at Lufthansa, convinced he had no chance of winning the contract. So he stopped performing and started having fun. What happened in that room — and what the engineers admitted afterwards — changed how he worked for the next three decades. This is an episode about the professional risk of being warm.

This episode invites you to reflect on:

• Whether your own humour at work is exposure or armour — warmth makes you vulnerable, while sarcasm keeps you safely hidden behind a target.
• What playing it safe actually protects: the outcome, or your excuse when it fails.
• What your body has been trying to tell you while you were busy enduring.

Over to you!

How much fun did you have at work yesterday — and whose game are you playing if the answer is none?

About the guest

Rob Evans has spent decades designing and facilitating large-scale strategy and transformation processes for organisations around the world. His work combines systems thinking, dialogue, large group facilitation and deep human curiosity. Rather than positioning himself as the expert with answers, Rob has dedicated his career to helping groups discover answers that none of them could have found alone.

Links to learn more about Rob Evans:

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This week's professional risk - inspired by Kristine

Saying out loud, in front of the person who could remove you, what a colleague only dared say to you in private.

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Most of us have sat in a meeting and watched a decision take shape that we didn't agree with, and said nothing. We tell ourselves it's not our place, or that speaking up won't change anything, or that the cost of disagreeing with the room is higher than the cost of staying quiet. We rarely ask what that silence is costing the business, or us.

Kristine Frost, a Chief Human Resources Officer with more than 25 years in the C-suite, names what everyone else in the room already knows and won't say. She calls colleagues out by name in executive meetings, walks factory floors instead of reading reports about them, and takes a seat at the table when nobody offers her one. This is an episode about the risk of being the one who breaks the silence.

This episode invites you to reflect on:

• How often you mistake staying quiet in a meeting for staying safe.
• What you might be missing about your own decisions by keeping your distance from the people they affect.
• Whether you're waiting for permission somewhere you could simply take the seat.

Over to you!

Where am I waiting for permission when I could simply pull up a seat?

About the guest

Kristine Frost spent more than 25 years in corporate leadership, often as the only woman, and often the only HR voice, at the table, before founding Shattered Glass Advisory. Trained as an attorney and now a board director, she built her authority in the C-suite by learning the business well enough to challenge it: walking assembly lines, sitting with engineers on the shop floor, asking questions nobody assumed were hers to ask. Her career is a case study in what it costs, and what it earns, to close the gap between the plant floor and the boardroom.

Links to learn more about Kristine:

Website

LinkedIn

This week's professional risk - inspired by Moh Guisse

Abandoning the persona that got you promoted.

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For years, Moh believed he was doing exactly what a successful professional should do.

After his manager suggested that the way he dressed affected how seriously colleagues took him, he didn’t just swap oversized hoodies for penny loafers. Slowly, almost without noticing, he changed the way he spoke, the way he led and even the way he related to other people. The clothes became an armour. The armour became a personality. And the personality eventually followed him home.

The strange part? It worked.

He was promoted. His career progressed. From the outside, every signal told him to keep going. Until one day his own team joked that mentioning his name was enough to make other departments back down. Instead of feeling proud, he realised he’d become someone he didn’t want to be.

Our conversation explores what happens when fitting in turns into becoming someone else. We talk about code-switching, authenticity, identity and why wearing a professional mask doesn’t just change how others see us, but also how we see them. Moh describes the moment he stopped leading through authority and started leading through trust, why that transformed his relationships at work, and how reclaiming something as simple as the clothes he wore became part of reclaiming himself.

This episode invites you to reflect on:

• Which parts of your personality have changed because you believed they weren’t professional enough.
• Whether the version of yourself that helped you succeed is still the version you want to become.

Over to you

Where in your work are you still performing a version of yourself that no longer feels true, and what would be the smallest step towards letting that mask slip?

About the guest

Moh Guissé is the founder of The Team Wizard, where he helps organisations build stronger collaboration, trust and leadership. After nearly twenty years in the fashion industry, he left corporate life to create a business where he no longer had to code-switch or hide behind the image of what a professional should look like. Today, he works with teams exactly as he is, believing that trust begins the moment people stop performing and start meeting each other as humans.

Every team is stuck in its own way. Ten questions to map how yours is. Three minutes, it's all it takes: https://ttw-diagnostic.netlify.app/

Links to learn more about Moh Guissé:

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This week's professional risk

Questioning the professional rules we’ve always followed, without ever choosing them.

Description

Every now and then, a conversation comes along that completely breaks my understanding of unprofessionalism. This episode starts with one of those moments. I realised that simply breaking professional norms isn’t enough. Some people challenge conventions to gain attention, power or status. Others do it because they’re trying to make work more human, more honest or more courageous. The difference matters.

But perhaps the most interesting part isn’t what my guests do. It’s what happens inside us when we hear their stories. That little voice saying, “You can’t do that.” Where does it come from? Is it protecting something you deeply value? Or is it repeating a rule you inherited without ever questioning it?

If this podcast has ever made you uncomfortable, this episode explains why.

This episode invites you to reflect on:

• Why feeling uncomfortable doesn’t necessarily mean someone crossed a line.
• How to tell the difference between breaking a rule that’s outdated and one that’s worth protecting.
• Why most of us follow professional norms that nobody ever explicitly taught us.

Over to you!

The next time you catch yourself thinking, “You can’t do that,” ask yourself: What professional rule did they just break? And do I still believe that rule deserves to exist?

About the guest

Myriam is a facilitator, behavioural economist and the host of Unprofessionalism. After interviewing dozens of leaders, entrepreneurs and creatives, she has realised that every time she thinks she understands unprofessionalism, a new conversation stretches its boundaries.

This episode is one of those moments.

Links to learn more about Myriam Hadnes:

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This week's professional risk - inspired by Charlie

Make the thing you've always kept furthest from work the centre of it.

Description

Charlie Robertson spent years keeping two lives carefully apart: the consultant at a well-respected firm, and Charlene Coco, the drag persona he performed in nightlife and mentioned to almost no one at work. Then he left the consulting career, went freelance as a facilitator, and — only about a year ago — did the thing that still makes him flinch when he posts about it on LinkedIn: he brought Charlene into the boardroom.
What follows isn't a coming-out story so much as a working theory of costumes. Charlie's argument, borrowed from RuPaul: we're all in drag, every day — the suit, the meeting voice, the confidence we perform. Most of us just never chose ours. Drag queens choose everything: the wig, the makeup, the walk, the reaction they want from the room. So what happens when you bring that level of intention to how you show up at work?
Along the way: why Charlene was once braver than Charlie in gay bars and is now more nervous than him in offices; the workshop participant who paces her flat in her highest heels before big video calls; what Charlie's dad means when he calls all of this "my Britney thing"; and a discovery neither of us saw coming until it happened mid-conversation — why an audience wills a drag queen to succeed, and what that reveals about which leaders we're actually willing to get behind.

This episode invites you to reflect on:

• Where the line sits between adapting to a room and disappearing into it
• What your version of the high heels is — the small, deliberate thing that switches your confidence on before you walk in

Over to you!

What's the one part of yourself you edit out before every meeting — and what would it take to wear it on purpose instead?

About Charlie

Charlie Robertson is the co-founder of Make it Werk, a consultancy helping organisations build teams worth being part of — and cultures worth staying for. He and his best friend Safiya started it after realising the inclusive spaces they created in nightlife were exactly what companies were missing. He facilitates trainings, offsites and workshops — sometimes in full drag, as Charlene Coco.

Links to learn more about Charlie:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertsoncharles/

instagram.com/thecharlenecoco

https://www.makeitwerk.co/