“Shadow AI = Shadow IT on steroids.”

If organisations are procuring or building AI, they should ask this early:
Is the cyber security team at the table, or only invited in later to manage the fallout?

Cyber security in AI isn’t optional.
It’s a non-negotiable for anyone serious about developing, deploying, and scaling AI responsibly.

In the latest episode of AI Trust Talks, Emma Johnson sits down with Glen Thomas to go deep into:
• Shadow AI and why it’s accelerating faster than governance
• Cyber security as a foundation of AI trust
• Where organisations are exposing themselves without realising it
• The skills uplift and organisational changes needed as AI reshapes the threat landscape

They also explore a bigger question:
Should CISOs be renamed Chief Trust Officers?

CISOs are increasingly accountable for data protection, cyber resilience, and securing AI systems — far beyond “security” alone.

For those working in cyber security — whether as CISOs, part of a red team, or IAM specialists — this episode is one to listen to.
It covers cyber risk alongside the capability shifts and operating model changes organisations need to make to keep pace with AI.