This episode was recorded before Real & Raw LIVE London, yet the conversation with Natalie is too potent not to share. We dive into everything from parenting and conscious leadership, to women’s circles, crystals, sex, surrender, and the messy middle we’re all navigating. You’ll hear the real story behind why I scrapped my first podcast, what birthed Raw & Real, and how following desire (not control) completely shifted my business, motherhood, and relationships. If you’re craving connection, authenticity, and liberation—this one’s for you. 🎙️

✨ And if this resonates—come experience it LIVE. Join us at Real & Raw Liberation, Austin, Feb 6–7th 2026 for two days that will change how you lead, love, and live. Your seat is waiting.

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