“Burnout is really a dilemma; it’s not a problem. If it’s a problem, we fix it. But, when you have a dilemma you have to come up with multiple solutions and habits and methods to deal with something that’s constantly in a flow and flux and changing,” says Arthur S. Hengerer, MD, in this episode of WisMed OnCall. Recorded on November 28, 2018, during his visit to Wisconsin, host Peter Welch interviews Dr. Hengerer about the systemic causes of burnout in health care and some of the national efforts underway to address this dilemma.