Ever-present at Seattle City Council events, planning meetings, and social media posts, Seattle for Growth's Roger Valdez visits the bookstore and takes Ian through the history of zoning in the US -- which he calls "a 20th-Century solution to a 19th-Century problem." His critiques of the unnecessary bureaucracy implicit in Seattle's -- and other cities' governments -- sparks a debate about the value of growth regulation. Also, a full-fledged concert rages in the background, because that's how Horizon Books rolls.