Longtime competitive athlete and founder of the Duncan Connection Tiana Duncan stops by the bookstore. She and Ian discuss the role fitness can fill in building social relationships and thawing the "Seattle freeze," especially in scenarios where it's acceptable to throw shade at the instructor. Then, Cascadia Underground and Cascadia Media founder Brandon Letsinger finally sits down and raps with Ian about the inspiration for creating a culturally autonomous region in the Pacific Northwest, warning against those who use the regional identity for nefarious racial purposes.