Lisa and Karly discuss how success will always trigger others, regardless of how you go about it. Owning your message and being brave enough to take a strong stance will gain you both diehard fans and harsh critics - but trying to please everyone will get you nowhere.

00:32 - Why Lisa is afraid to appear polished and professional

06:25 - Karly's take on why people are triggered by other people's success

13:56 - Karly on why getting clear on your message and standing in your power will trigger criticism

15:26 - Lisa explains why you have to be brave enough to say something that will polarise opinions

22:47 - Karly shares the crucial question to ask yourself when it comes to levelling up

24:22 - Why Lisa has changed the conversation around food, even if it means leaving people behind

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