We welcome back Phil Andrews to the podcast this week to talk about his new(ish) role as CEO of USA Fencing, how governing this sport is different from his last role at USA Weightlifting, how he's dealt with the Alen Hazdic situation, how to get more women and para athletes involved with the sport, and what he's looking forward to in Paris.

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In our history moment, Alison looks at the fencing competition at Seoul 1988.

In our visit to TKFLASTAN to see what's up with Team Keep the Flame Alive, we have news from:

· Paddler Luuka Jones

· Beach volleyball players Betsi Flint and Kelly Cheng

· Wheelchair fencer Ellen Geddes

· Archivist Teri Hedgpeth

· Filmmaker John MacLeod

· Plus, the TKFLASTANIs representing Team USA at the Pan American Games later this month—streaming coverage will be at panamsportchannel.org.

Also, there's Paralympic news from Paris 2024, and LA 2028 has announced the five sports it would like to add to the Olympics in 2028. We've got the lowdown, including the heated discussions and negotiations that apparently went on behind the scenes!

For a transcript of this episode, please visit http://flamealivepod.com.

Thanks so much for listening, and until next time, keep the flame alive!

Photo courtesy of Phil Andrews/USA Fencing.

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