The Tim Heale Podcasts S3 E74 Kate Wallinga  

In This episode I chat with Kate, Kate is a forensic psychologist and story-collector, with a history of working in prison, court, locked psychiatric facilities and emergency rooms. The most important certainty I carry, from all my time working with inmates and patients and onlookers, is that the only real difference between “us” and “them” is who carries the key to leave. And that everything we experience, from crippling anxiety to serial murder, is not always rational, but there is a logic to it. I can make things understandable.  

Kate’s website: https://iwbpodcast.com