In this eye-opening episode, Joe and Ethan talk with Clifford Brown, a former USAID Mission Director with 27 years of experience across Latin America, Central Asia, and Africa.

Clifford shares firsthand stories from the field, including the terrifying moment his wife was kidnapped in Kyrgyzstan, and reveals what life is really like running missions in unstable countries and war zones. They discuss controversial internal decisions at USAID, the realities of foreign aid, corruption, coups, and what the agency’s sudden termination means for global stability and migration.

Where to find Clifford Brown and his book:
Website: cliffordHbrown.com
LinkedIn:   / clifford-h-brown-2608428
Substack: https://cliffordbrown.substack.com
X / Twitter: @bliffordcrown
Book – Inside USAID: An Odyssey of Foreign Assistance: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/inside-usaid-clifford-brown/1148399558?ean=9781967458912