If you are tired of timing and grinding your deer shoulders, stop and keep those cuts whole.  They make tremendously good barbacoa as you will learn in this pod cast.  The recipe is from Hank Shaw and can be found in this link https://honest-food.net/barbacoa-recipe-venison/ .  This yields a shredded venison that can be used in tacos, tamales, quesadillas or just served over mashed potatoes with a good gravy.  Have a listen, head over to Hank Shaw's recipe and give this one a try.  It's a winner.