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Conversation with Professor Sidney Dekker and Dr Tom Verhelst

Join us for episode 2 of season 4 featuring Professor Sidney Dekker, a bestselling author academic at Griffith University and a pilot known for his groundbreaking work in safety science. Drawing from his extensive research and experience, Sidney challenges conventional wisdom on data, human error, and organisational safety, offering insights into:

• ​The benefits of restorative justice over blame in building safer systems
• ​Understanding the escalation of commitment in various industries, from aviation to healthcare
• ​Empowering better choices by making risks and trade-offs visible

This thought-provoking episode explores how data-driven cultures can balance accountability with empathy to foster real progress in uncertain times. Tune in for insights that could transform your approach to leadership, safety, and decision-making across various sectors.

If you have any questions or comments, you can contact us at [email protected]. Griffith University and the Relational Insights Data Lab (RIDL) are dedicated to building and supporting thriving communities. We believe that the right data, in the hands of the right people, can change lives for the better. We are committed to collaborating and co-designing solutions which address long standing, complex socio-economic problems. If you or your organisation would like to collaborate or learn more about the important work we do, please get in touch. We'd love to hear why data matters to you.

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Show Notes:

• ​Martin Heidegger - Wikipedia
• ​Local rationality:Herbert A. Simon - Wikipedia
• ​Jens Rasmussen (human factors expert) - Wikipedia
• ​“Make the boundary visible” Jens Rasmussen paper:Jens Rasmussen, Risk Management in a Dynamic Society: A Modelling Problem
• ​Corrie Pitzer "risk secrecy" paper:Leadership and safety - still not connected
• ​Todd Conklin “People don't make poor choices, they are given poor choices”:PreAccident Investigation Podcast | Todd Conklin
• ​Amazon.com: Ten Virtues of a Positive Safety Culture: 9798303212138: Dekker, Sidney: Books
• ​Dave Graber Bullshit jobs:https://g.co/kgs/d1BgQB8
• ​70-75% increase in managers, but only 20% of people were employed in that same decade, survey in Netherlands 2/5 jobs meaningless -37% of British workers think their jobs are meaningless | YouGov
• ​Candide book:https://g.co/kgs/72B2J2h