In this episode Lawrence and Tony are Joined by Dr. Rosie Doy. The trio discuss Rosie's EdD thesis - Messiness and complexity: A case study exploring student parameidcs voayages into navigating uncertainty and look at the parrelells of Rosie's findings and its applicaiton to simulaiton.  True to form, messiness rears its ugly head in the episode so stay tuned to find out what happened...