Building Us

Using the Enneagram to Build Stronger Personal and Business Relationships with Janine Crum & Christian Moore


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In this episode of the Building Us podcast, co-hosts Erik Garcia, CFP® and Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT interview Janine Crum, Certified Enneagram Coach, and Christian Moore, CVO of Real Good Group and Co-Founder of Agent Refined. Janine and Christian share their knowledge and expertise about the Enneagram and how it can be applied to your daily life.

Episode Highlights:

  • Erik introduces Janine Crum and Christian Moore. (1:58)
  • Janine shares her background and her career. (2:16)
  • Christian shares his background and his career. (2:47)
  • Erik shares a quick story about how he met Christian Moore. (3:13)
  • Erik mentions that he and Christian exchanged many ideas together, and Christian has been an influence in his life and his business. (3:23)
  • What is the Enneagram? (3:58)
  • Janine shares that Enneagram is a tool for personal development and personal growth that not only helps you identify yourself but how you operate within the bigger picture of the people in the world around you. (4:19)
  • Christian shares that by taking the Enneagram test, and by reading and understanding the differences and nuances of your key motivations and fears, you could discover which tool fits for you. (5:15)
  • Erik mentions that the word Enneagram comes from the Greek word Ennéa, meaning Nine. (6:53)
  • Janine explains the first to the fourth personality types. (7:33)
  • Janine mentions the set of the triad which is the heart, the head, the gut. (8:49)ins the general breakdown and the corresponding personality types on each triad. (8:59)
  • Is there an emphasis on the weakness, and what’s the remedy for it? (11:23)
  • Janine mentions that most people miss type themselves in the beginning until they begin to tackle and see an overview of all the types. (13:10)
  • Is Christian a vengeful person? (13:49)
  • Christian mentions one of the things that he loves about the Enneagram is that it presupposes the spiritual being. (13:55)
  • Christian shares that it's very difficult to believe in the Enneagram without believing in the concept of a spirit or soul. (14:29)
  • Janine explains the Enneagram Symbol. (18:32)
  • Janine mentions one of the cardinal rules about the Enneagram. (24:51)
  • Christian mentions that the core fear is feeling fear itself of actually being afraid, or being without support security. (27:05)
  • Matt mentions that an Enneagram is a tool for understanding yourself, understanding your worldview, and understanding your relationship with other people. (31:28)
  • How has the Enneagram helped in Janine and Christian’s relationship? (32:44)
  • Janine mentions that the Enneagram has single-handedly been the element that has grown her marriage, more than anything. (32:56)
  • Janine talks about the Enneagram Institute. (35:05)
  • Janine thinks that the Enneagram gave their marriage a direction on how to continue to grow. (35:44)
  • Christian shares that the aspect of type nine is that they understand every other number on the Enneagram better than they understand themselves. (44:48)
  • Janine shares that there’s a common saying amongst the Enneagramers that, the enneagram is neither a sword nor a shield. (45:55)
  • Does our number change depend on who we're among? (50:22)
  • Christian thinks that the Enneagram helps him see a person’s skill or natural ability. (59:29)
  • Janine shares that the growth part of the Enneagram is that you realize your strengths but you make them stronger by understanding that they inhabit your weakness. (1:00:33)
  • Christian thinks that there's a difference between humanity and a person’s thought. (1:01:23)
  • Christian mentions one of the things that’s unique about the Enneagram is that there are levels of maturity. (1:08:22)
  • Resources Mentioned:

    • Erik Garcia, CFP®
    • Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
    • Garcia Financial Group
    • Matt Morris & Associates
    • Janine Crum Instagram
    • Christian Moore LinkedIn
    • Real Good Group
    • Agent Refined
    • ...more
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      Building UsBy Dr. Matt Morris LPC & LMFT, Erik Garcia CFP®

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