AL, Tom and Kenny speak to Dr Phill Gittins. Dr Phill is a peace-builder who has travelled all around the world working to try and educate people living in countries in difficult circumstances about peace. We talk about Phill's brilliant, yet difficult work and the approaches he and his colleagues have to take when we talk about peace. Switching pace a little, rather than working in the likes of Sudan or Colombia, Phill has switched his attention closer to home in Shropshire UK. Why you ask? Well the answers are her in this great episode.

After Dr Phill leaves the guys, they switch their attention to The Mandalorian, a terrible mid-week show that ended in glorious yet childish laughter and nectar of the gods...coffee!