Co Author of Vaccines: Mythology, Ideology, and Reality,John Leake Joins Rose. John explores the surprising origins, contested history, and complex legacy of vaccines—from Edward Jenner’s cowpox experiment to today’s public health debates. This podcast dives into the science, myths,and ideologies surrounding one of the most influential medical technologies ever developed. While acknowledging the role vaccines have played in reducing disease, this episode questions the dominant narratives, examining the roles of propaganda, profit motives, and scientific uncertainty. It’s a call for honest, evidence-based discussion that doesn’t shy away from the failures, risks, and ethical questions often left out of the mainstream conversation.

The two also discuss childhood vaccines and the urgency tofind out what has injured children in the past. The idea that vaccines need to be fully examined and that it is imperative to get back to actual science is also discussed.

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