Gabby sits with her hermana from another mother, writer Vanessa Martir to talk about queer motherhood and professional rebirth. Vanessa shares her deeply personal experience of having a mom who didn’t show her love. She calls it being “unmothered” and teaches others how to write through the pain. Gabby also gets the scoop on Vanessa’s hot-carpenter-butch wife and they explore the age old question of - “Do you put a plastic bag in your rice?”

CREDITS Host & Co-Creator: Gabby Rivera @quirkyrican Co-Creator & Producer: Kat Lazo @itsKatLazo  Audio Engineer: Marcela Carbajal @uniqbeing Joy Revolution Theme Song: Angelica M. Rodriguez Joy Revolution Theme Song Vocals: Trent https://instagram.com/the.holding.space?igshid=tmgp6dxj4lck Logo Design: https://emulsify.art/ Bookkeeping: Marcy Mejia  Special Thanks To Julissa Contreras Special thanks: Jo Volpe and the New Leaf Literary & Media Inc. team. Contact Joy Revolution Podcast: [email protected] and follow us on Instagram @JoyRevolutionPodcast  https://www.instagram.com/joyrevolutionpodcast