It’s a minisode this week! Jonah recently sat down with math tutor Vanessa Vakharia on her podcast, Math Therapy, to work through his math-related traumas. If you hate math, this is the perfect podcast for you!

If you’re interested in hearing the full episode or still need more math therapy, you can find the full episode list on the Math Guru website. You can even find the homework Jonah was prescribed to help him come to terms with his math trauma.

The following clip was pulled from Episode 3: A Mathemagical Crisis.