This week Daniel and Chase are joined by Jack Ek and his friend, the legendary Alexander Bard, who describes himself as a “philosopher who writes f***ing books" and who is according to his Wiki: a Swedish musician, author, lecturer, artist, songwriter, music producer, TV personality, religious and political activist, one of the founders of the Syntheist religious movement, and member of the bands Army of Lovers & BWO, amongst numerous other projects. More recently, he cofounded a secret society called The Grey Robes, AKA the “Freemasons of Decentralization”.