The second pod recorded live in the loft. of all things discussed, we slip into media training, drinking draino, oaxacan purple xanax, profits and lofts, gathering spaces that aren’t disgusting, shell companies for throwing parties, myles zavelo, group chat weight loss, living in zine world, printing shit out, asher penn and sex, cooking with tao lin, dating a mid tier meme lord, functioning scenes, selling indulgences, urbit bikini’s, political incomprehensibility, being described in public, podcasts as a way of dealing with your own subjectivity, Belle Delphine’s bath water, the smell of a new baby, a fictionalized relationships to money, kratom tobacco pancakes, oozing privilege, why anyone can have a magazine if they just decide to just print one out, and just offering simple intimacy.

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