On this week's programme, Sam and Julia chat to alumni Nico and Michelle Neethling about their separate experiences on the Residential Internship, their long-distance relationship, some of their parenting experiences, and the stories of economic hardship that Nico is seeing through his job at BNZ. You'll hear from one of Venn's Adjunct Teaching Fellow's, Hannah Chapman, who shares about her work and her family's papa kāinga in Turangi. And you'll catch an interview with Vocational Programme alumnus, the Revd Frank Ritchie, who shares about his role as chaplain to New Zealand's overworked and often under-appreciated media.