Our new friend Veronica is switching career paths. She began college at 18 on a pre-med track and is now about to graduate from a writing Master's program in her late 20s.

Caroline, Anne and Gale can relate! They discuss the anxieties that come with changing things up later in life, such as imposter syndrome. 

They define wisdom, rethink the advantage of an academic background and what it takes to be a "Working Girl" and "Nasty Gal" with self-confidence. They can't ignore the societal struggles of aging as a woman and the differences between your 20s and 30s. They gush over their favorite female authors, who all happen to write honestly about insecurities, the "fairy tale" of job searching and eventually getting a baby and cowboy boots, whatever that means to you. 

Not to spoil the ending, but the moral of the episode is there's no such thing as a straight arrow line to your career.

Oh, and they also come up with appropriate phrases that incorporate... feet? You have to listen to get it. 

Veronica's recipe for Julia Child's Career Path a l'Orange: 

 “Working Girl” (movie) Anne

“Let The River Run” (music video) Anne

“One Day We’ll All Be Dead And None Of This Will Matter:Essays” by Scaachi Koul( book) Gale

Baby Cobra by Ali Wong (stand-up special) Caroline

Read Roxane Gay (author) “Bad Feminist” Anything she’s written on women and feminism “I approach things with a dangerous level of confidence….” Anne

Channel youth! Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 2 Episode 4 Caroline

Hocus Pocus (film) Gale

“My Life In France” by Julia Child (book) Gale

Julie and Julia but just Julia (film) Anne

Kathryn Joosten’s late career Gale

List of people who didn’t start until later in life (Andrea Bocelli and Grandma Moses) Anne

Without Fail (podcast) Caro

The Good Wife (tv show) Anne

The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt (tv show) Gale

Isa the truck named Isadore  by Amanda Nadelberg (book) “Ugtred” (poem) Caro

Slouching Towards Bethlehem by Joan Didion (book) “Goodbye to all that” Gale

“How to Triumph Like A Girl”by  Ada Limon (poem) Anne

Brother’s Grimm fairytales Caro

Star Trek Next Generation (tv show episode) “Peak Performance” Gale

Murder She Wrote (tv show) “A Murder Among Friends" (episode) Gale