The last time the Liberal Party turned their heads to energy, we had the NEG, which drove a factional wedge between the party room and led to the downfall of a PM. This time, it’s a global pandemic. You’d think once bitten twice shy, but politics is full of surprises.

Are we going to be lifted above the pandemic by a hydrogen powered economy? Or is it just a lot of hot air?

Max Tillman is joined by Richie Merzian, Climate & Energy Program Director at the Australia Institute. And Dr. Paul Brown, Senior Lecturer in the Faculty of Trans-disciplinary Innovation at the Centre for Business and Social Innovation at The University of Technology Sydney.