When Victoria tweeted that she would love to guest on other peoples podcast we're not sure she took into account that we would pounce on that but here we are.

It's truly a delicious chat, poking about in Victoria's writing, love of video games, twitch presentation and her relationship with cross-stitch. It's another unapologetic tangent heavy episode where Chris and Nathan learn about the benefits of the phrase "fresh baby", discuss the Sims franchise and how writers love to make people feel things.

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