Here’s a recording of a live video chat I did with my colleague Timber Schroff of the Summer of Protocols program.

We’re gearing up to announce the 2025 program on Friday. It will be in the form of an overview essay, featuring a program philosophy riff by me, in our magazine Protocolized! Subscribe to that if interested. It features protocolized science fiction, essays (including the occasional editorial one by me) and program outtakes.

In this video, Timber and I have a discursive chat about protocols, science fiction, Southeast Asia, efficiency/thoroughness/openness tradeoffs, mold vs. rust, and lots of other things

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