In our second episode with Vinesh Kannan, Vinesh discusses how studying at the Illinois Institute of Technology, working at the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and attending Chi Hack Night enabled him to build a set of values that guided his decision to leave Google. Evan dives into how Vinesh inspired him to also embark on a civic tech journey of his own. Ajay and Vinesh converse about the gaslighting that can occur at Facebook and Google.