Join host Ben Plumley from Phnom Penh Cambodia, in conversation with Thomas Cai, a visionary Chinese-born entrepreneur and CEO of Open Source Technologies. Thomas, a pioneering figure in Asia’s rapidly growing biopharmaceutical industry, shares his journey from HIV advocacy to leading high-impact hepatitis public-private partnerships in Southeast Asia. He offers a critical analysis of the effectiveness of traditional providers of global aid including NGOs and the Global Fund, while also envisioning a self-reliant future led by local health authorities, businesses and communities, calling only on the expertise and funding from northern partners as needed.

00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview

00:40 Meet Thomas Cai: A Visionary Leader

01:39 Thomas Cai’s Journey and Achievements

03:33 Open Source Technologies: Mission and Focus

04:46 The Hepatitis Crisis in Southeast Asia

08:55 Challenges in Hepatitis Treatment

15:53 Critique of Global Health Funding Models

28:56 Thomas Cai’s Background and Early Work

39:11 The Role of Buyers Clubs in the HIV Epidemic

40:45 Challenges with NGOs and Public Sector in Disease Treatment

43:02 The Risk of Monopolization in Healthcare

43:39 The Importance of Business in Disease Control

51:33 Disruption and Innovation in Healthcare

53:22 Personal Reflections and Influences

01:07:18 The Hepatitis Elimination Alliance in Cambodia

01:09:12 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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