How long until we'll see dinosaurs in our living rooms and sharks in the gym? Matt's friend and VR game designer Edwon joins to give insight on the current state of virtual reality and where he sees it going in the near future. Matt knows him as a person who goes after what he wants to do, which lends to a discussion on the luxury of being poor. His most recent endeavor is a virtual pets game, Waba, that finds him living between Japan and LA.

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