Joel and Travis discuss virtue in Plato's Republic--what is it like, why would it be hard to teach, and how it might relate to politics. Virtue is not a mere obedience to rules, nor is it some ordering of the soul where reason uses shame to control the appetites. It is rather a ordering of the soul by love of the Good/Beautiful. How does this relate to biblical virtue? How can we grow in it? Teach it? And who should you vote for in November? Some of these questions are almost answered in this episode.