Episode 24 of B:jazz features vocalist, composer and teacher Cansu Tanrıkulu. We discuss the academisation of jazz in the context of visibility, the theme for Jazzwoche Berlin this year. How are both historic and contemporary figures included in teaching a new and often younger generation of future professional jazz and improvising musicians, what are the positives and negatives of the music moving into the academic space? We also discuss how important role models are to students, balancing what is required for a course of study with what is most tailored for individual development, and how educators can make their students feel seen, heard and visible.