Leadership is not something that is static but something that grows and with growth comes vulnerability.

How do you lead & motivate people who are not on your payroll but working, serving voluntarily from a place of passion? 

How do you get them to buy into the vision?

In this episode Mzwandile has such an impactful conversation with Martin Mgiba a husband, an attorney, pastor, philanthropist, author amongst an array of things he does on how to invite people into the room, communicating the vision with clarity through mundane repetition, being the Chief Passion Officer (CPO) bringing energy into the room, owning the vision,  and involving others in the bigger picture.

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