This week, AI meets ROI with Vivek Mahapatra — Salesforce exec, systems thinker, and part-time myth slayer. We talk agentic design, scaling AI like a grown-up, and preparing humans (and kids) for what’s next. Meanwhile, RAINA dishes on Meta’s metaverse breakup, England’s AI-assisted football dreams, and a copyright lawsuit that could rewrite the AI playbook.

LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

Vivek Mahapatra (LinkedIn)

Vivek Mahapatra (Salesforce Blog)

Salesforce AgentForce

Co-Intelligence (book) | Ethan Mollick

Linchpin (book) | Seth Godin

Think Again (book) | Adam Grant

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