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In a summertime-spring-cleaning of computer files and old recordings I came upon this interview which I thought you might be happy to hear as a thirty-minute podcast.

Five years ago the new Vocations Director for the Christchurch Diocese, Fr. Tien Cao, asked if he could interview me, the outgoing Director.

I was happy to oblige then, and it seems timely this weekend as we celebrate the Feast of the Baptism of the Lord, to share this conversation which suggests that poverty, chastity and obedience are at the heart of an abundant life for every baptised person.