'The Amazon is bleeding, ecologically, culturally and spiritually. And still from within this pain, hope emerges.'

Mauricio López Oropeza, a prominent lay leader from Latin America, joined Geraldine Doogue for this year's 40th anniversary of the Hélder Câmara lecture series to reflect on how the Amazonian experience is reshaping global Catholicism. Bringing the voices from the peripheries to the centre isn't easy, as the Amazon synod showed, but can catholicity become the 'vaccine' against divisions in the Church and the world?

Thanks to Br Mark O'Connor FMS, the Diocese of Parramatta and Newman College, where this conversation was recorded.

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