Steve and Grace Howell sat down with Jonathan and Adam for a rich discussion of GGBTS' now-closed music department, more about the preschool, and their return to GGBTS for Steve's second degree before they came on staff at a church near the seminary's Mill Valley campus.

There's one more Friday left in July, our month for a flood of weekly episodes. Episode 12 features pastor Miguel Rodriguez, set to release on July 29th. Miguel is an alumnus of GGBTS, a previous staff member of GGBTS in a vital program yet to be discussed on this podcast, and the pastor of Lincoln Hill Community Church in San Rafael, CA, which sits just a few minutes north of the seminary's Mill Valley campus.