Starts with a quick recap of the VP debates, followed by 2 debates between Mesh and DRush. Debates are over Lockdowns and UBI, one with the 2 minutes format we see in presidential debates, the other with a more long form 5/10/5 style that we are using as a thought exercise. Neither of us have any debate history or topic expertise, so this is more of a thought experiment on the pros/cons of each style.