Anders & Andy interview the unmasked McKinsey whistleblower and journalist Garrison Lovely about consulting with Rikers and ICE. Other topics include bread fixing, opiates, McKinsey 4chan, and Mayor Pete. In the second Garrison takes our answers on being a leftist Effective Altruist.

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Garrison's podcast: https://mostinterestingpeople.podbean.com

Original whisteblower article: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/02/mckinsey-company-capitals-willing-executioners

Recent Nation article: ww.thenation.com/article/society/mckinsey-whistleblower-confessions/

Jacobin interview: https://jacobin.com/2023/10/mckinsey-garrison-lovely-whistleblower-consulting-firms

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