We're about to launch into a series loosely based on the feelings of The Seven Deadly Sins and thought there was no better place to start than a conversation about the feeling that's supposed to steer us clear from them all: SHAME. 

On this episode, Dana talks about her own struggle to overcome shameful feelings. Amy gets embarrassed that she doesn't feel as much shame as she used to anymore. We discuss these difference between shame, embarrassment, and guilt, and how (and why!) to avoid a parenting style based on shaming. 

Additionally, we marvel at the shamelessness of the current resident of the Oval Office and wonder how someone becomes utterly shameless. Amy was surprised by Dana's expert opinion of how people turn out that way, and you might be, too. 

For our "No, You HAVE To" this week, Dana recommends a recent documentary series to understand how deep shame plays out in real life, and Amy recommends something superficial to forget all about it.