On todays episode of Modern Notion Daily, our guest is David Talbot, the former CEO and editor-in-chief of Salon.com. Talbot has written a new book, The Devils Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of Americas Secret Government (Harper, October 2015). Dulles was the director of the CIA until President John F. Kennedy fired him; and now theres evidence to suggest that Dulles might have been behind the plot to kill the president. But perhaps even more persistent in Dulless legacy is his role in creating a deep government, operating outside the bounds of democracy within our country.

Music this hour:

“Forgiven Not Forgotten” by Jahzzar, from the album Kuddelmuddel

“Soldiertype (militarised)” by Ketsa, from the album What’s Without’s Within

eCommerce by BoxCat Games, from the album Nameless: The Hackers RPG Soundtrack

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