In this episode of Less Talk, More Action, Andrew Jones, Founder of Carba, joins Joel and Owen to explore the science, business, and challenges of large-scale carbon removal. The conversation covers the role of biochar in sequestering carbon, the importance of both decarbonization and carbon removal for climate solutions, and the myths and skepticism surrounding the industry. Andrew also shares insights from his entrepreneurial journey, discusses the scalability and environmental co-benefits of his approach, and offers an optimistic outlook on the future of climate action. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of the complexities and opportunities in the fight against climate change.

Highlights from this week’s conversation include:

• Discussing the Legitimacy and Details of Carbon Removal (1:28)
• The Role of Science, Skepticism, and Climate Models (4:35)
• Ice Cores, Climate History, and Uncertainty in Predictions (5:38)
• Potential Benefits and Risks of Increased CO2 (7:10)
• Andrew Jones Introduces Carba and His Approach to Carbon Removal (9:07)
• The Need for Both Decarbonization and Carbon Removal (10:09)
• Andrew’s Motivation and the Business Model for Carbon Removal (13:55)
• Explaining Biochar and the Pyrolysis Process (17:00)
• Economic Drivers and Carbon Credits in the Business Model (22:25)
• Challenges of Scaling and Sourcing Biomass Responsibly (25:47)
• The Entrepreneurial Journey and Why Biochar Was Chosen (26:07)
• The Scale of the Carbon Removal Problem and Waste Management (29:57)
• Addressing Additionality and Proving Impact to Buyers (36:32)
• Decentralized Operations and Responsible Biomass Sourcing (39:59)
• Myths About Carbon Removal and Concerns About Biomass Sourcing (45:25)
• Optimism for the Future and Closing Thoughts (48:25)

The nexus of business, policy, and sustainability is more divided than ever, but Less Talk, More Action is here to cut through the noise. Hosted by clean energy experts Joel Cesare and Owen Barrett, this podcast dives into the front lines of decarbonization, net-zero real estate, and entrepreneurship. Each episode features bold questions, real solutions, and stories from leaders in science, tech, and business who are taking action to make the world a better place. Join us as we move beyond talk and work toward a cleaner, net-zero future. Learn more and subscribe at lesstalkmoreaction.com.

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