The title sounds like the definition of boring, but Paul Oddo makes it interesting. He's a comic from Houston, a highly skilled artist and wood craftsman, host of the Scienpaulogy podcast and he joined me from his studio in Brooklyn to talk about all kinds of foolishness. We talk Rona, art, nihilism, simulation theory, The Bay of Pigs, cocaine in the 80's, taking Toad-derived DMT in a yoga studio and making furniture at the end of the world. Follow Paul Oddo on IG at @PaulOddoArt and PaulOddo.com to find his livestreams while he paints.