In the past it felt like political ideologies were opposing tides, moving slowly back and forth. Today, it's more like a choppy sea of random swells, creating a chaotic whirlpools dragging us down. Author Jon Harris joins to podcast to talk about his new book "Against the Waves" that categorizes some of the new movements, and we talk about how increasingly unmoored ideologies will drive in such random directions. 

 

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