Subscribe via: iTunes | Google Play | RSS Part 2 of our interview with Jon and Jef, the hosts of System Mastery. Listen to Part 1.

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Notes

• When picking games to evaluate, Jef and Jon look for unique games with something fresh to discuss, regardless of actual quality. Strange is better than 'good' or 'bad.'
• Ambitious moves whether or not they work.
• Disconnects in thought between intention and implementation gives them a lot to talk about.
• One of Jef's favorites is when designers inject a lot of their own personal opinions inappropriately.
• Kevin Siembieda, creator of Rifts, is a sweet dude and fun to talk to.
• Jon has so many opinions on Herbert Hoover.
• Their next patreon goal will move Expounded Universe to a weekly show.
• Jon and Jef have been working with the author of Strike! to develop the Blimpleggers rpg.
• They are working with James D'Amato on a game where you build the rules as you go.
• They'd also like to grow the house brand with a few more San Diego nerd podcasts produced by other people.
• They'd like to do video content, but there are significant logistical obstacles to surmount.
• The ultimate goal of any podcast is to have a pig butler, and System Mastery is no different.
• Advice: Don't go into podcasting with any kind of monetary goal.
• Go into podcasting to produce quality content, and allow people to support you if they wish. Do it for the love of doing it.
• Find the community that wants what you've got.
• There's a lot of luck involved.
• One of the weirdest things to Jef is that people now consider them experts.