Richard is joined by Rich Logis, executive director and founder of Leaving MAGA, and Courtney Rae, who left MAGA. Rich emphasized the importance of community and the need to avoid labeling MAGA supporters as cultists. Courtney shared her personal experience, highlighting the validation and self-esteem boost she received from the Leaving MAGA community. Both mentioned the challenges of leaving MAGA, including the emotional and psychological impact, and stressed the importance of providing a supportive community for those transitioning out. Rich noted that their organization is gaining traction, with many discovering them through TikTok.

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