Rob Reich is a Stanford political philosopher, associate director of the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered AI, and former senior advisor at the US AI Safety Institute. He joins Pierce and Richard for a sweeping conversation about AI, policy, modern education, and much more.

Rob skewers Silicon Valley's misuse of democratizing AI, unpacks the corporate-form gymnastics behind OpenAI's restructuring and Anthropic's PBC status, indicts Stanford itself as the world's most successful nonprofit, and offers an insider's view of standing up the US AI Safety Institute from a five-person team inside the Department of Commerce.