Charles, Matt, and Gregg are reunited and talk with Marcos Gonzales about the link between violence and hopelessness, how we can work against white supremacy in our systems and the urgency of locating ourselves with the oppressed. Marcos Gonzales, SJ is a Jesuit candidate for the priesthood and has a Master's in Social Work from Loyola University Chicago. He is currently serving as a Case Worker at Homeboy Industries in Los Angeles California.