Not all breakups have to be romantic to be difficult. Falling out with a friend can be just as painful as any romantic break up, and in some cases even harder to get over. In this episode, Brendan talks with Marito Lopez about the pain of losing a close personal friend, and about how learning to recognize trauma in our lives is the important first step in healing. We talk addictions, immigrant versus western approaches to handling trauma, and Mariah Carey. Also, Brendan attempts to beatbox, which is about as traumatic experience as you're ever going to get.