In this conversation, artists Léuli Eshrāghi and Cannupa Hanska Luger untangle topics of Indigenous futures, science fiction, belonging, and the possibilities of language.Léuli Eshrāghi is a curator and artist of Sāmoan, Persian and Guangdong heritage with a few Marshallese, English and German ancestors, living and working in Mparntwe/Alice Springs for the past year. Cannupa Hanska Luger is a multidisciplinary artist based in New Mexico, USA. He is an enrolled member of the Three Affiliated Tribes of Fort Berthold of Mandan, Hidatsa, Arikara, Lakota, and European heritage. The written version of this peer to peer conversation is featured in the 2021 Festival Book the 22nd annual imagineNATIVE Film + Media Arts Festival which took place online October 19-24, 2021 celebrating Indigenous storytelling in film, video, audio, and digital and interactive art. The 2021 Festival Book brings together voices from imagineNATIVE’s international community. Through essays, personal reflections, conversations, and poems, the Festival Book give readers insight into the overarching curatorial theme Fall Camp, Official Selected works in Audio, Digital + Interactive, and Film + Video, and Guest-Curated programs in Film at the online 2021 Festival. Purchase the publication which features this peer to peer conversation and so much more at https://store.imaginenative.org/collections/publications-collection/products/2021-festival-book-pre-saleThe recorded conversation presented here was edited and produced by Broken Boxes Podcast with permission from the artists and imagineNATIVE. Music featured: Suplex by Halluci NationSpecial thanks to Nikki Little and Vanessa Martin of imagineNATIVE for making this artist intersection possible.