The guys (this includes Karen) this week talk about the California recall election and the results. How hard it is to get a license to vote in California or how hard it isn’t. Are Independents (as a political party) “Ball-Less” and non-committal about American issues and are they the cause of division in America? Do Podcasters influence the populace in political ways with truths and non-truths? The topic of COVID / Vaccine comes back heavily again and how it effects healthcare and insurance and the immunocompromised? Finally we discuss the Sept 18 Rally in Washington DC and make predictions about the event!